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Post On: 2010-02-20 17:13:45

 Do you think this is a clean deal for the dweller people?
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In America, are our prescriptions getting out of control? On my shelter my copay meet doubled. A someone of mine spends nearly $500 a month on prescriptions, it's getting to the point that it's moving his paying other bills. And these are meet copays. My wife has digit prescription for her hunch that required her to verify it twice a day. A CLERK at the shelter company definite that they could save by supply her 30 pills at the total dose for the day, instead of 60 pills at the proper dose twice a day. Their answer was to "cut the pills in 1/2". Who out there hit proven to accurately revilement those pills in 1/2? It can be kinda challenging. And if it crumbles, good luck in figuring out how much is half. They said they chose this option because they pay prescriptions per pill and it's cheaper for them. But what most the patient? Shouldn't that be the main concern? "This is a true story from a someone of mine." This is happening to millions of people in america correct now! Isn't it depressing that doctors and "The Big Pharma" don't inform people more most "Alternatives" and how to meet healthy, instead of gift out drugs like candy. Alternatives hit been proven to work over and over again. But the powers that be would like to ready us in the dark so they can add money to their bank accounts while draining ours. Doctors on here try to speech most alternatives like they know what they are saying, but in truth they receive rattling little upbringing on nutrition. Exercise, Eat correct and verify supplements so you can meet healthy and ready yourself out of this vicious system. CowboyDoc, I'm rattling sorry ! These are the kinds of stories I hear over and over again, and some people in this section could care less. But I'm not digit of them. That is why I ready repeating the same things over and over on here to get it to give in peoples heads that we are being tooken plus of by mainstream doctors and the Pharmaceutical industry, not to mention the Government which excepts campaign effort from the latter. They got us where they want us and it makes me sick!
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 Post On: 2010-02-20 21:21:04
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yes I meet heard some person who well himself with a 100% raw food abstinence by Dr Gabriel Cousens and humour abstinence of diabetes, kidney disease and colon cancer who was dying (he also lost 225 pounds) feature he was on 25 prescriptions at least and today is on 2 and that digit of the diabetic ones was hundreds of dollars a period (for one) if you go to youtube & identify in dave the raw food driver and see options for terminal month, it was posted low humour fasting. he was saying he eats lots of nonsynthetic produce 99% nonsynthetic an when he humour fasts (he idd this over 100 days), he drinks a gallon a period and spent $70 a period but today gets a deal form nonsynthetic farmer and spends 50-70 dollars every 3 life and the Mohammedan on the recording pointed out the high outlay of infirmary and Dave said his mom was in a coma and the bill for a period was over a million dollars and most $2000 a period and they also talked some most the high outlay of prescriptions. Dave well his diabetes with this abstinence in 3 DAYS..can you imagine the money he saves lonely on insulin, diabetic meds and diabetic investigating strips which separate most 1 note each and people ingest between 1-5 strips a period not to mention the added diabetic investigating supplies. It would be cheaper for the shelter companies to cover nonsynthetic foods and aid us and keep us well , but don't count on that happening or even existence told to people. so many have well themselves of all kinds of sicknesses with juicing, naif smoothies and raw vegan food, it isn;'t funy. It is meet incredible. I myself did this so far. this is ground we requirement a genuine single payer health care system. river is trying to intend digit on the ballot that I composed 1500 signatures for. It also includes preventative and deciding health. Asking people to clew it saw at least 2 of every 3 signing it and they talked of the high outlay of insurance, co-pays and deductables and leaped at the chance to clew it. It was pretty dumbfounding and gave me a beatific see what people desired nd thought of our current system. if the freaking money grubbers would intend out of the way but we know they won't. It sounds same your friend needs on of those pill cutting devices that slices correct finished it at the half way point. I ingest them for vitamins and they work. the patient is rarely the first concern. Just saw the flick exceptional measures and it gave a beatific see for these people funding/making the drugs and their (lack of) concern for patients and greedy concerns for profits first and foremost. they know how to aid this clog I think..when I told my doctor I obstructed my mom's hunch attack when nitro did nothing in less than 3 minutes with an herb/food, she directly said which digit it was before I said it. of course she is rattling into deciding health/diet herself. People block that abstinence and exercise and stress reduction are low under the deciding health umbrella. these on here (skeptics) blanket down anything deciding which includes thousands of plants many of whom have had studies that showed results and a myriad of modalities and kinds of deciding health modalities. They are ever taunting science. Just tonight I was at the half toll bookstore and picked up a aggregation and it was conversation of Chinese herbs and it talked most digit herbs which performed above placebo rates and they are so fond of saying the test show it is all useless, Unless they are aware of every test, how crapper they feature this with a straight face. Plus the scientific method of observation on what entireness and what doesn't on ourselves and loved ones is using observations and concept and I would trust my own embody results more than some fog questionable power somewhere. they are the ones lacking credibility in my instrument with their blanket rejection of anything natural and alternative. It is a darn shame..if I listened to my doctor instead of knowledge I learned from others that went before me and made lifestyle changes, I would be on a diabetic drug the rest of my life marching towards stronger and stronger ones till I needed insulin. As it is thus far 8 months after diagnosis, I had a normal a1c and abstinence blood sugar. for individual years before that I proven at fairs etc in the nonindulgent range. I directly noticed results..when I ate meat and animal, the blood sugar skyrockets. Yet when I fasted and also drank fruit humour both things my doctors said NOT to do, my blood sugar was consistently 112-115 from an average of most 350 before. I am not so sure if what they think they know is even true Like many before me, I researched and did deciding health/diet etc and healed myself of things they can't or they feature cannot be reversed...my son's vision from 20-300 to 20-40 was added thing..I was told it would never be reversed. My research and performing on the impact of others and the words of those who said they well their diseases as well as--ignoring the doctor-- got it reversed. That man existence on 25 drugs is what you intend when you
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 Post On: 2010-02-20 20:13:17
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1. Doctors and "Big Pharma" are not the same, nor are they in cahoots as you seem to think. 2. I've never met a doctor who would not inform his/her patients about the benefits of a flourishing lifestyle. It's NOT a doctor's job to metaphorically hold your assistance while you manage your life. Doctors module fain intend you to dietitians, counselors, and another professionals who do hit the instance to do much things. If you want doctors to hit more time, then help near for actual upbeat tending reform and accumulated funding for scrutiny education. 3. Insurance companies are exactly that, companies. There welfare is profit. In fact, that welfare is mandated once they become incorporated, and corporations are required by law to locate the financial interests of their stockholders above every another interests. Why would anybody be surprised, or outraged, by the logical actions of these companies in our system? 4. Alternative medicine is not the answer to the upbeat tending crisis in America. Access to primary and healthful care, inexpensive treatments, business abolition (reform won't work; acquire motives in upbeat tending universally decrease tending quality), and legal reforms would do far more than providing grouping with unproven treatments that more often than not are quackery. 5. Eating right is dead paramount to upbeat (NO DOCTOR WOULD ARGUE AGAINST THAT). Supplements are dead unnecessary if you eat right but there are some known exceptions where increment is wise, much as antepartum increment of shackle (only those who sell supplements would lead you to believe that you need them). 6. A brief review of scrutiny school curriculums would quickly exhibit that doctors obtain as much training in nutrition during their diagnosing eld as they do in neuroanatomy. Most doctors, however, focus more on the diagnosis of nutritional deficiencies kinda than providing flourishing diets to their patients. Modern medicine is complex, and teamwork is the essence of calibre care. The job of nutrition falls on the registered dietitian, and some nimble doctor module fain intend you to digit should you need a dietitians counseling. I'd continue and dissect more of your rant, but some smart reader gets the point. This whole post, as usual, is little more than hysterical BS integrated with minute truths that you modify far beyond what some logical, critically thinking mortal would. But you've summed up your position well elsewhere. I would never expect someone who 'hates most doctors' to conceive about medically related subjects before bill rants.
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 Post On: 2010-02-20 17:57:31
User: Aolly
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It makes me sick the way the public is so misled. The way they are forced to place their trust into Doctors who don't know a abstract most nutrition, who meet want to make them take pills to fix things... The sad abstract is that people almost NEVER look to see if they can encounter the truth themselves. People need to challenge the things that they conceive in because they've been told to conceive in them. It is awful the garbage people will believe, even when it defies logic. America is meet a mess. The country is run on greed and the extremity ignorance of the generalized public.
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 Post On: 2010-02-20 17:33:32
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Although I agree with you, I don't think it's event in meet America. My drug cost over 1500 a period for heart meds and for my disability. Why a heart drug that has to be taken or "you crapper die" as the cardiologist says cost $186.00 a script w/no samples for a retired person with a income that is so baritone but does not meet poverty standards so no help is out there, this is plus, 64.00 a period for a cheap pain pill because the 185.00 pill is to expensive. Then you hit the cholesterol pills, the blood thinning pills. We spend more on our drug then on groceries. I don't get about half my pills due to cost. There are no "alternatives " for me, it's either this or you will.... period, what to do. I accumulated my insurance contract for me if I don't make it for my wife's benefit. This is the system.
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